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alasdair

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2020 Final Rules Update
« on: July 24, 2020, 01:24:14 PM »
Unless I have been totally incompetent which is possible as read some of these documents so many times the current version of lists, amendments and army builder will stay in place till christmas, feel free to email me with any queries or mistakes, especially as we get near to proper production of the rules.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2020, 01:26:27 PM by alasdair »

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Re: 2020 Final Update
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2020, 01:26:11 PM »
Rest of lists and qrs, pre battle

Army Builder will follow by the end of the weekend

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2020, 12:31:11 AM »
Interesting stuff.

Big changes for the Cossack infantry, will have to have a play to see how it goes.

Still no return to mixed units for Condotta mounted types? Is this because of the shift to close for the Heavily armoured guys?

The Inca subjects with longspear are still slower than the rest of the army?

Hopefully the new army builder will make close mounted significantly cheaper than loose. Getting shove in melee is not an adequate trade off for being slower and worse in terrain. Would seem to just be making Gendarme types worse at the moment.

Also hoping the army builder will be helping the low tech/tribal types as these changes don't seem to have done much (unless I've missed something)

Martin
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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2020, 01:48:07 PM »
Email me the specifics re the Incas and i'll sort

Swordsmen, aggressive and tribal have all got cheaper but we'll see if its enough

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2020, 03:58:40 PM »
Now the army builder

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2020, 10:53:38 PM »
Thanks

What's the thinking on close mounted costing the same as loose?

Sword and pistol only costing 5 more than pistol seems a bargain.

I still cant help but feel that the range of points for foot training/organisation needs to be broader.

Time to play with some lists

Martin

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2020, 03:24:59 AM »
Thanks for this, will take the new list into a game this weekend.

I do have a question though why the reduction in PBS and Scouting cards?

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2020, 11:23:10 AM »
Scouting cards were far to high, if we have gone to far the other way we'll review but wanted to get the lists and army builder out there, play for 6 months and then take all the comments into consideration at the end of the year.

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2020, 11:26:19 AM »
Thanks

What's the thinking on close mounted costing the same as loose?

Sword and pistol only costing 5 more than pistol seems a bargain.

I still cant help but feel that the range of points for foot training/organisation needs to be broader.

Time to play with some lists

Martin

But Sword and Pistol has lost shatter and Pistol is better against infantry, and I take onboard your comment about point range re training needing to broader but want to get 6 months gaming in to see what lists players go for and if their is any obvious differences, I really struggled against a Burmese at the weekend and that was before aggressive, tribal and swordsmen got cheaper

take care

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2020, 12:00:12 PM »
If I am reading the QRS correctly, pistol is not better against anything. Sword and pistol is always at least +1 and often +2. Pistol is always +1. Five points seems like a low difference for that.

Martin

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2020, 02:22:56 PM »
Thanks Alasdair, will let you know how the scouting plays.

Why the reduction in PBS?

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2020, 09:47:38 AM »
Honestly you'll have to ask Simon that one as excel beyond my skills

sorry

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Re: 2020 Final Rules Update
« Reply #12 on: August 01, 2020, 08:46:52 PM »
Thanks Alasdair, will let you know how the scouting plays.

Why the reduction in PBS?

Change in scouting cards will have a secondary knock on effect on it a bit.
But should be small.  If you can send a before and after via AH I'll take a look to check.
Nothing I have changed should directly impact it.

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