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Skirmishers formation - ability to “skirmish” move
« on: November 01, 2024, 03:06:59 PM »
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Using Italian Wars army lists January 2024

Am I correct that Italian Mercenary crossbowmen are a “skirmisher” formation that cannot execute a “skirmish” response to a charge because:
- They cannot get into open order and therefore
- they cannot be an OOT eligible for “skirmish” under ME 15N

Sts:  Italian Mercenary X-bow: Drill Close/Loose;  Av Unprot;  AFP Bow;  Skirmisher

Or have the rules/lists changed?

Many thanks as always!

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Re: Skirmishers formation - ability to “skirmish” move
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2024, 06:36:47 PM »
You are correct - defined as this they cannot skirmish.  Run Away/Skirmish is only for those who qualify ME15.N

Being Formation 'Skirmishers' just means that they have a combat claim against 'non-Skirmishers'

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Re: Skirmishers formation - ability to “skirmish” move
« Reply #2 on: November 02, 2024, 02:50:25 PM »
Many thanks for the confirmation, much appreciated as always!

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Re: Skirmishers formation - ability to “skirmish” move
« Reply #3 on: November 02, 2024, 03:09:49 PM »
One more question:

Help - Where is the cbt claim by skirmishers against non-skirmishers specified?

I am using QRS 1.2 and Formations Mar 2023 and the Helion ReG rules book.

Where should I i be looking or have i missed an update - which begs the question what else am I misssing . . .

Many thanks again.

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Re: Skirmishers formation - ability to “skirmish” move
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Re: Skirmishers formation - ability to “skirmish” move
« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2024, 10:41:14 AM »
Please note there will be some change in Many Enemies, Much Honour. The definitions of Crossbowmen will typically be



So the 'heavier' crossbow foot will get a little better.

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Re: Skirmishers formation - ability to “skirmish” move
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2024, 05:08:28 AM »
Many thanks for sharing the changes, much appreciated.

Changes make sense to me - reducing the vulnerabilities of some crossbow units, but I am no expert!

Will the changes/ updates in “Many Enemies Much Honour” roll into the downloadable pdfs available through the old ccc games site?

Regardless I will change my Mercenary X-bows :)

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Re: Skirmishers formation - ability to “skirmish” move
« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2024, 12:31:12 PM »
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Will the changes/ updates in “Many Enemies Much Honour” roll into the downloadable pdfs available through the old ccc games site?

no, those sets picked up by Helion for publishing will not get changed, other than being made compliant with core rule set, which was done at the start of the year.